Can People be Hypnotised to do Things Against Their Will, or to Forget What They've Done?
Yes, although views and circumstances vary. Sometimes the barriers break through, and there is seepage from one mode of functioning to another.
What About Dissociation, Multiple Personalities or MPD?
Again, views vary widely. If you look through the original Toukanalia Blog, you'll find more. In a nutshell, some people engage in cult-life without having any awareness of it in normal waking and working life. Somewhere I have a book about a family that operated in this fashion, as well as running a business. I ended up feeling sorry for the man running the show when things unravelled, because he was upset and did not seem to realise the full import, or what he had been instrumental in, almost as though things simply happened around him. If he had entered a 'cult' persona, or was in an altered state of consciousness, that could go towards explaining some of it. Stage hypnotists can get people to do weird things, and not all subjects are playing along with what is expected - or pleased with the results!
In one area we lived, we got to know a teacher who mentioned being puzzled by a few students who occasionally seemed to use quite ordinary words as if they had a different meaning for them or others 'in-the-know'. That may be cultural and make no sense to people not born in the area, or have meaning in family traditions. You could liken it to an 'in-joke' that excludes others when you start a new job. But it sounded unusual, and only happened sometimes related to time & place or some internal space. My great-aunts would whisper things they didn't think were suitable for children's ears. When my mother revealed something she had heard via the whispering-aunts, I could see how far-reaching and powerful 'Secrets in the Family' can be, see the book by Lily Pincus & Christopher Dare. They found that a disturbing family occurrence that was never mentioned, significantly affected family functioning and some members, for a lifetime or maybe until aired.
Some people I've come across in my meanderings have been deeply dissociative with infrequent glimpses into other part/s of their life. Then they'd forget it all, losing large chunks of personality. I engaged with a strong, well-respected person who managed a variety of activities in the community. She really knew how to manipulate. My tendency is to seem compliant and non-assertive, but I am known for being stubborn. She admitted to me that I made her efforts with her protegee a lot harder: I guess that's all I could do in the circumstances.
Basically, she completely overrode the personality of a highly intelligent capable woman, manipulating the alter parts of her personality & her life. She seemed addicted to the activities, and I could not understand how she disciplined herself during periods of downtime. Is there something or someone else orchestrating this?
Transient Personalities/ Alters
For Videos on the possibility of some people behaving very differently from their usual way of life see www.youtube.com/user/scillaholmes/videos
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For BookList see links across the top of this page.In one area we lived, we got to know a teacher who mentioned being puzzled by a few students who occasionally seemed to use quite ordinary words as if they had a different meaning for them or others 'in-the-know'. That may be cultural and make no sense to people not born in the area, or have meaning in family traditions. You could liken it to an 'in-joke' that excludes others when you start a new job. But it sounded unusual, and only happened sometimes related to time & place or some internal space. My great-aunts would whisper things they didn't think were suitable for children's ears. When my mother revealed something she had heard via the whispering-aunts, I could see how far-reaching and powerful 'Secrets in the Family' can be, see the book by Lily Pincus & Christopher Dare. They found that a disturbing family occurrence that was never mentioned, significantly affected family functioning and some members, for a lifetime or maybe until aired.
Some people I've come across in my meanderings have been deeply dissociative with infrequent glimpses into other part/s of their life. Then they'd forget it all, losing large chunks of personality. I engaged with a strong, well-respected person who managed a variety of activities in the community. She really knew how to manipulate. My tendency is to seem compliant and non-assertive, but I am known for being stubborn. She admitted to me that I made her efforts with her protegee a lot harder: I guess that's all I could do in the circumstances.
Basically, she completely overrode the personality of a highly intelligent capable woman, manipulating the alter parts of her personality & her life. She seemed addicted to the activities, and I could not understand how she disciplined herself during periods of downtime. Is there something or someone else orchestrating this?
Transient Personalities/ Alters
For Videos on the possibility of some people behaving very differently from their usual way of life see www.youtube.com/user/scillaholmes/videos
Keep reading... at Full Circle
Allied fields are Anthropology, Anthropology of Religion. Check out the work of Tanya Luhrmann, author of 'When God Talks Back'. Jimmy Lee Shreeve wrote 'Blood Rites' and 'Sacrifice'. In the former the last chapter summarises some split-brain research, including the work of Julian Jaynes on the Bicameral Mind. Also see books by Stan Gooch.
Dr William Sargant wrote several books on other cultures and beliefs, including the dangers of attending rituals where emotions or senses are heightened to the point where people may be converted to a very different belief. He in fact stayed away from those! What we may regard as primitive tribal dances, according to some researchers, are actually effective methods of communicating with other Beings. However we tend to explain things for ourselves, some practices are found across the World, and through centuries. You may come across the idea of portals, which can be places or circumstances when other realities are seen or heard, or perhaps it happens during a period of fever, illness or danger. I have mixed with people with many beliefs and personal experiences, generally without it causing concern. I have become cautious over time about getting too close to people with a bee-in-the-bonnet - over anything, or what seems an imbalance regarding people other than themselves. See On Protection post at https://notincharacter.blogspot.com/2019/01/blog-post_28.html, and maintain some boundaries for yourself.
If you think people cannot be hypnotised unless they are in full agreement or in an appropriate setting, this may help: A colleague who was a hypnotherapist told me of a meeting where an experienced practitioner gave a talk, and by the end almost all the audience were zonked out including other practitioners. This colleague used to be active in political circles, and I watched him subtly and slowly turn a room around from claiming there was no way they would agree to something. By the end of the meeting, he had set things in motion, though for the first half you'd never have known he was doing that - and I was watching for it.
If you look at the Egregores book at No.11 below and go to the end, there are three accounts of people with different experiences of joining a group, sometimes with far-reaching consequences for themselves or right across the board, acting almost like a curse. So please people, be careful what you get involved in. A man we knew who had an analytical mind and job, said he would go to an introductory talk run by Scientology and let us know what it was like. We warned him to be careful, but had no great concerns. Next time we saw him he was at the blackboard virtually repeating what he 'learned' or now 'knew', and not listening to anyone else's comments. Another time a couple of us went to an introductory meeting of a group at a hotel in Birmingham. The first half cost a few pounds, and we were then told if we wanted to hear the second part it was a big dollop more, the idea being to get people on the road to enrolling on a course. I had to catch a train back, and anyway don't like these ploys. My friend seemed hooked, and again had always analysed things out, and had training in another discipline. The female speaker was both didactic and charming, and had us repeating a mantra to visualisation. One intrepid man asked bluntly 'Is there verification for any of this, because you are giving it all out as factual?' Good question, which got nowhere as others resented the intrusion, and it certainly was not discussion time. Soon afterwards the organisation changed its name. You do need to be careful that there is not a very different agenda from stated, or that a group or enterprise does not simply change until unrecognisable. Groups can be hijacked as well as individuals, and there are people with precisely that intention and skills
It is not just groups that can sway people into different behaviours or thinking, and some experiences of different activities or pastimes are clearly beneficial. Recent media focus has been on stalking, abusive relationships and coercion or control, so if you are concerned about your physical or emotional safety, there is information available, a common language, and help available. The most difficult part is realising in the first instance that there's something amiss or unreasonable in the behaviour of a person one is involved with. Even so, that person can be very persuasive, or impose further restrictions so that it's hard to get away without back-up or support.
If you look at the Egregores book at No.11 below and go to the end, there are three accounts of people with different experiences of joining a group, sometimes with far-reaching consequences for themselves or right across the board, acting almost like a curse. So please people, be careful what you get involved in. A man we knew who had an analytical mind and job, said he would go to an introductory talk run by Scientology and let us know what it was like. We warned him to be careful, but had no great concerns. Next time we saw him he was at the blackboard virtually repeating what he 'learned' or now 'knew', and not listening to anyone else's comments. Another time a couple of us went to an introductory meeting of a group at a hotel in Birmingham. The first half cost a few pounds, and we were then told if we wanted to hear the second part it was a big dollop more, the idea being to get people on the road to enrolling on a course. I had to catch a train back, and anyway don't like these ploys. My friend seemed hooked, and again had always analysed things out, and had training in another discipline. The female speaker was both didactic and charming, and had us repeating a mantra to visualisation. One intrepid man asked bluntly 'Is there verification for any of this, because you are giving it all out as factual?' Good question, which got nowhere as others resented the intrusion, and it certainly was not discussion time. Soon afterwards the organisation changed its name. You do need to be careful that there is not a very different agenda from stated, or that a group or enterprise does not simply change until unrecognisable. Groups can be hijacked as well as individuals, and there are people with precisely that intention and skills
It is not just groups that can sway people into different behaviours or thinking, and some experiences of different activities or pastimes are clearly beneficial. Recent media focus has been on stalking, abusive relationships and coercion or control, so if you are concerned about your physical or emotional safety, there is information available, a common language, and help available. The most difficult part is realising in the first instance that there's something amiss or unreasonable in the behaviour of a person one is involved with. Even so, that person can be very persuasive, or impose further restrictions so that it's hard to get away without back-up or support.
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or https://groupsandminds.blogspot.com/2019/03/blog-post_50.html
For an introductory list of some authors/researchers on End Times and breakaway civilisations go to https://groupsandminds.blogspot.com/2019/03/blog-post_14.html
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